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Post by johnc » Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:01 am

Bnielsen wrote:
johnc wrote: Liquid Tension Experiment (think Dream Theater sans that godawful singer
Pardon? I happen to wish I could sing (at least as high) as him...
I simply cannot understand the words LaBrie is singing without reading the CD's liner notes--not because his voice is down in the mix, but largely because he mispronounces words, such as putting the accent on the wrong syllables. Maybe his accent throws my ear off too. I'd enjoy Dream Theather a lot more if they had a singer who appealed to me. As it is, LTE composed music I like and the personnel have chops for days.

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Post by Theremin » Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:14 am

Sam, the two Gryphon CDs I have each have two Gryphon albums on them, because each album would be only about 35 minutes long. Gryphon and Midnight Mushrumps are together and Red Queen to Gryphon Three and Raindance are together. Midnight Mushrumps is like Gryphon, only the vocals are less annoying. It has some good stuff on it. Red Queen to Gryphon Three is the "proggiest" of the four, it is in four movements and has no vocals. Raindance is a little folkier and more acoustic, but is still really good. I think Red Queen is the best on the whole, but my favorite song of any of their albums is Ein Klein Heldenleben. If I were you, I would get the CD of Red Queen and Raindance, seeing as you (I? :lol: ) already have Gryphon.

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Post by Sam Gamgee » Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:26 am

Bing! Ok, I get it now. :) Thanks.
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Post by yyzmoose » Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:47 am

Gryphon was a nice discovery for me in 03. Ihave the first two albums on one disc. I didn't know they grouped Red Queen with another album as well. I need to find that.
And now for something completly different...

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stuff I like:

Post by Jules » Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:52 am

actually I don't listen to much prog rock...I like GH 'cuz Steve is cool & funny. :D

Stuff I like (I like a lot of bands no one has ever heard of--my poor husband teases me dragging him to shows of bands he has no clue about--most of my friends either like country or bubble gum poop, uh I mean pop-hee hee, so they won't go to shows with me):
Juliana Hatfield (she's my woman crush)
Tanya Donelly
Lush
Loquat
Cush (check out their self titled LP-- go to http://www.northernrecords.com)
Mike Knott
Starflyer 59
Ester Drang
Ashen (a cool Atlanta band) http://www.ashen.net
Viva Voce http://www.vivavoce.com
Abandoned Pools
The Pieces
Some Girls
Blake Babies
Christine Glass
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Post by MayorOfLongview » Mon Jan 05, 2004 5:00 pm

Jules wrote:actually I don't listen to much prog rock...I like GH 'cuz Steve is cool & funny. :D
Wow. I suppose when you get right down to it, I am very cool - or hip as you kids say.
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Post by Reepicheep » Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:10 pm

Just a music buying tip:

Go to

www.grassrootsmusic.com

to buy CHEAP christian cd's online..it's the greatest site ever, becuase they strongly promote independent artists, and you can always find something new and interesting there, as well as anything mainstream you would be looking for.
We usually wind up paying less, even WITH shipping when we buy through grassroots rather than at a music store (ESPECIALLY the Christian bookstores which are WAY overpriced).
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My Faves

Post by soulfreq » Tue Jan 06, 2004 3:57 pm

Great topic! :D

Here is a sampling of my faves. I cannot guarantee that this list will be "free from prog" cause I don't think that was. Me faves is me faves.

And (shameless :oops: plug alert) you can hear all these folks on my radio show. And more.

-Electric Light Orchestra-Hooky fun pop/rock w/nifty orchestration and great vox. Buy em all.
-Yes. Yes, Yes. Yes. GH loves 'em. See my interview this Thursday nite to hear what Steve & Fred say about them. Yes remasters on Rhino ROCK!
-Kansas-Truly original America prog-rock. I like early Kansas. I like mid-period Kansas. I like late Kansas (w/Elafante vox, and then the Steve Morse insane guitar period Kansas). Still put on a good show!
-Proto-Kaw-Kansas w/Kerry Livgren before the classic Kansas we know. Recording a new CD so I guess they are pre-Kansas as well as post-Kansas. Confused?
-Spock's Beard-Fun prog w/great melody and pop sensibility. Lost their main creative force in Neal Morse but still plugging along admirably.
-Neal Morse-Ex singer/writer for above. One of my faves of 2003-CD Testimony
-Monkees-Fun, fun, fun and catchy pop-rock
-Steely Dan-Wry, ironic, jazzy, unforgettable.
-King's X-Melodic hard rock, drop-D tuning, Seattle stole a lot from their sound. Gretchen Goes to Nebraska could SAVE your life
-Galactic Cowboys-see King's X mixed w/the Beatles
-Beatles. Do you need an intro?
-Led Zeppelin. See Beatles blurb.
-Pink Floyd. See Zep & Beatles blurb.
-Cream-Clapton/Bruce/Baker psychedelic blues-hard rockin', unforgettable. Buy 'em all
-Jimi Hendrix-rock fans must own the 3 original Experience CDs
-The Kinks-Classic, classic rock/folk/power-pop
-Cheap Trick-Classic power-pop/lotsa punkers influenced by. Good sense of humor
-Rock and Roll Worship Circus-The name says it all. Retro-rock worship music. Great live show
-The Swift-Piano-based Christian pop/rock. GREAT!
-Moody Blues-Their name is apt. Classic prog, elegant use of mellotron, wonderful vox. Retro (some would say OLD sound) but very cool
-Smashing Pumpkins-Many musical styles, recommend Melon Collie and the Infinite Sadness & Siamese Dream. Corgan is awesome on guitar.
-Zwan-Billy Corgan's now defunct post Smashing Pumpkins band with a suprising and fresh spiritual emphasis
-Rev. Al Green-Smooth soul, possibly greatest vox of all time
-Talking Heads-Early to mid period. Great whacky new wave fun. Don't like the artsy/world music late period. Yuck.
-Traffic-Jazzy/rock/fusion/prog. Steve Winwood-probably my second fave vox of all time
-Blind Faith-Supergroup w/one CD w/naughty cover. But incredible music...Clapton, Steve Winwood, Ginger Baker (incredible double bass attack), Rick Grech
-Santana-Early to mid period. Supernatural was OK, Shaman so-so.
-POD-Hard rockin'/reggae/rappin/spiritual
-Phil Keaggy-Guitarist extrodinaire. You must buy his Myrrh rock CDs. Pay any price on e-Bay (Blue, Sunday's Child, Find Me in These Fields)
-Daniel Amos (DA/Swirling Eddies)-Legendary Christian rockers. Beatles/Talking Heads/New Wave/Alt-Country/Avant-Garde
-Glass Harp-Early Phil Keaggy band. Moody Blues/Cream-ish
-Nuggets Box Sets-Lotsa garage/fuzz rock/psychedelic bands
-77s-Christian Led Zeppelin/U2/Beach Boys(!)
-The Choir-Moody, atmospheric alteranative Christian rock
-PFR-Late, great Beatles/Jellyfish Christian rock band
-Jellyfish-Fun, retro Beatles power-pop
-Doug Powell-Fun Beatles power-pop
-Todd Rundgren-Classic rock, weird, prog, electronic, power-pop icon. Like the Utopia stuff, Something/Anything, A Wizard, A True Star
-Mortal-Classic heavy Christian industrial. One member is now in Switchfoot. In a perfect world these guys would sell a lotta CDs.
-Fold Zandura-Same guys as Mortal, but cool power-pop/rock/keyboard/catchy stuff
-Juggernautz-Same guys as Mortal and FZ but a little more dancy
-Switchfoot-Great pop/rock Christian rockers
-Cars-First few CDs are must buys. New-wave classic rock
-Emerson, Lake, Palmer-Classic keyboard oriented prog
-Pigeon John-Witty Christian rapper. Also part of LA Symphony
-John Coltrane-Patron saint of jazz. Must buy-A Love Supreme...a jazz psalm
-Journey-Love 'em. Classic rockers. Like mid to early period best.
-KY Headhunters-One of my best friends plays guitar for them (Greg Martin)-psycho/blues/boogie/southern-fried/classic rock-n-soul.
-Lynyrd Skynyrd-before the plane crash. Classic stuff. Used mellotrons. 5 guitar attack!
-Byrds-Psychedelic folk
-Buffalo Springfield-psychedelic/folk/country/rock
-The Band-Blues, americana, folk, rock
-Big Star-Classic, influential power-pop
-Simon & Garfunkel-Singer/songwriter folkies. Tops
-Stereo Motion-Retro Christian pop/rock.
-The Flower Kings-Yeslike prog/fusion
-Magellan-Prog mix
-Dream Theater-Metallic prog
-Rick Altizer-Incredible power-pop http://www.rickaltizer.com
-Toto-Classic, tight pop-rock
-Electric Flag-Classic psychedelic/soul/blues/rock combo
-Elton John-Early, pre-lounge lizard years
-Badfinger-Beatle-esque power pop
-Larry Norman-Christian rock pioneer
-Keith Green-Incredible piano based Christian pop/worship
-Sonic Flood-First CD...classic worship/rock CD
-Delirious-Worship rock ala' U2
-Coldplay-Lovin' em!
-Fleetwood Mac (The Blues years AND the classic rock years)
-.rod laver-Christian rap rockers
-Audio Adrenaline-Christian alt-rockers. Went to college with em.

Whew, all I can think of for now!

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Post by Alatar » Fri Jan 09, 2004 6:49 am

MayorOfLongview wrote:
I did get the ROTK sound track for Christmas - which I love!
Hmm, let's see:
It's about Lord of the Rings
It has sections in 5/4 time
It has stylistic elements of classical music

I'm sorry, that's prog.

Stuff I like that's non-prog

Tori Amos
Led Zeppelin
Fleetwood Mac
Steeleye Span
World Party
Jane's Addiction
Faith No More
Clannad
Enya (Next time you see Fellowship in the cinema and Legolas says "There is a fell voice upon the wind", shout out "It's Enya")
Early music (From the troubadours to Johan Dowland and Monteverdi)
The Beatles
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Post by Sam Gamgee » Tue Apr 06, 2004 9:43 pm

At Mr. Theremin's most excellent mmusical advice, I bought Blind Guardian's Nightfall in Middle Earth. The Silmaillion + metal band? I was extremely curious! And I am satisfied. It is really really strange, a metal band with an 80's vocalist... with celtic flairs! seriously! It amuses me greatly, and I'm going to have to listen to it some more, but I really like The Dark Passage and the Battle of Sudden Flame (recorders. all the way!)... Anyway, it's hilarious. Go for it, if you want something really really odd, but really entertaining!
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Post by johnc » Sun Apr 11, 2004 10:45 am

I find myself on a Celtic-music kick lately. Been recording songs off of Internet radio stations specializing in that genre, then putting them onto CDs.

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Post by Theremin » Sun Apr 11, 2004 12:34 pm

Tsk tsk... :eyebrow: :lol:
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Post by rox » Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:29 pm

Besides prog, I like soundtracks :mrgreen:
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Post by alien2112 » Wed Oct 13, 2004 4:40 pm

Other bands that are probably not prog . . . :roll:

Third Day! Great Christian rock band from Georgia. I can't believe none of ya'll have heard of them . . . :shock:

Other bands I've listened to:
Jars of Clay
Tait
dc Talk
Jeremy Camp
Creed

:oops: I know, I know! My list isn't that extensive. :oops: I'm picky what I listen to.

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Post by MayorOfLongview » Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:43 pm

alien2112 wrote:Other bands that are probably not prog . . . :roll:

Third Day! Great Christian rock band from Georgia. I can't believe none of ya'll have heard of them . . . :shock:

Other bands I've listened to:
Jars of Clay
Tait
dc Talk
Jeremy Camp
Creed

:oops: I know, I know! My list isn't that extensive. :oops: I'm picky what I listen to.
I've heard of them. They're HUGE!
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