general vocal question

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general vocal question

Post by DruidsGlass » Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:55 am

why are the vocals mixed so low?
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Post by MayorOfLongview » Mon Jun 21, 2004 12:47 pm

DruidsGlass wrote:why are the vocals mixed so low?
You think they're mixed low on everything? Are we talking about the DVD?
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Post by DruidsGlass » Mon Jun 21, 2004 2:02 pm

well, the dvd mostly, in order to listen to the multi vox part i have to turn it up REALLY loud
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Post by MayorOfLongview » Tue Jun 22, 2004 8:47 am

DruidsGlass wrote:well, the dvd mostly, in order to listen to the multi vox part i have to turn it up REALLY loud
Well, the 'multi vox' are hard to mix. The more vocals you put in, the smaller the sound gets. Its something we've worked on over the years, and it is very hard to do. The new live CD captures it pretty well. The whole band is singing - plus a choir.
But usually the mix is best when the main part is favored, like Walter on Heaven. We're getting better at it though. Much of it has to do with the way the parts and the song are written. The new one we are working on now has multi vox aplenty, and everything cuts through the way we want it too.
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Post by Sam Gamgee » Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:54 am

hurrah! Glad to hear about the choir.
Because in WWWY on the CD, the only thing that cuts through is the instruments. ;) (This is one of my cheif grievances with GH, too, DruidsGlass - the multivox should be loud, because they rock!!)
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Post by DruidsGlass » Tue Jun 22, 2004 5:50 pm

lol, so im not the only one who noticed it...
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Post by CanarioAB » Tue Jun 22, 2004 8:57 pm

When I was arranging the two-voice double choir for 4-part choir, I finally had to cry 'uncle' and ask for (and luckily got) mp3s with the 2 parts recorded separately :). It was hard to pick out the separate parts under all those instrumental layers (and the other voice parts as well). The vox came across as more of an accompaniment that featured instrument.


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Post by DruidsGlass » Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:11 pm

so you're saying that the vox acted more as an accompnaniment to the instruments?
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Post by MayorOfLongview » Wed Jun 23, 2004 7:07 am

Sam Gamgee wrote:hurrah! Glad to hear about the choir.
Because in WWWY on the CD, the only thing that cuts through is the instruments. ;) (This is one of my cheif grievances with GH, too, DruidsGlass - the multivox should be loud, because they rock!!)
See - you think they rock but you couldn't hear them! THat's the point. Maybe they don't actually rock. Maybe we're hiding something? Maybe if we turned them up they'd rock even less! Okay - we'll turn them up next time.
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Post by johnc » Wed Jun 23, 2004 9:24 am

DruidsGlass wrote:lol, so im not the only one who noticed it...
Far from it. This has been discussed before (noodle about the forum to find posts about it), and Steve was fully aware of folks' opinions regarding vocals' levels in the final mix.
MayorOfLongview wrote:Okay - we'll turn them up next time.
One must admire a civic official who's so responsive to the citizens of Longview. Far as I'm concerned, that glitch has already been corrected. On WWWY, I find it much easier to pick out the separate vocal lines on the DVD than on the Lex Rex version of the song (although I daresay that's because I can see as well as hear). Okay, howzabout "Run Lisette"? Three separate vocal lines going at once, and yet I find it not-too-hard to understand all three.

Right offhand I cannot think of another band that successfully tackled the challenge of multivox. Anyone know of one that I don't? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

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Post by Sam Gamgee » Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:22 am

Weird Al?
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yes we're going
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to the hardware store!"

Just kidding! He may have multivox but he is still an amateur! As opposed to a "Beyond Die Hard". Or something.
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Post by Bnielsen » Wed Jun 23, 2004 1:02 pm

"...water-holder-backer the torpedoes man, I STILL need more Multi-Vox!" :P
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Post by Theremin » Wed Jun 23, 2004 3:58 pm

Weird Al does have it down pretty well. What about "Since You've Been Gone," that is awesome!!!
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Post by DruidsGlass » Wed Jun 23, 2004 7:02 pm

lol, how did wierd al make it to the GH vocals forum, rofl
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Post by Sam Gamgee » Wed Jun 23, 2004 7:20 pm

Because there are multivox on Weird Al's latest CD, Poodle Hat, "Hardware Store". I don't know which one Theremin is talking about, actually... This came up earlier, in the "multi-vox" topic on this section, and we're referring back to it.
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