Inconsolable Secret revisited? Why?

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Post by Japes » Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:46 pm

MayorOfLongview wrote:Recording flute today for "Lirazel - The Inconsolable Secret Revisited". Slowly but surely this album will make its way back into print. :D
Awesome! Is it real flute, or synthesized? And if it's real, who plays it?
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Post by MayorOfLongview » Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:54 pm

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MayorOfLongview wrote:Recording flute today for "Lirazel - The Inconsolable Secret Revisited". Slowly but surely this album will make its way back into print. :D
Awesome! Is it real flute, or synthesized? And if it's real, who plays it?
real :) Player is Donna Curry....
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Post by Bnielsen » Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:50 pm

Very cool, Steve! Thanks for the update!

I *really* hope you guys made Lirazel longer!!!
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Post by MayorOfLongview » Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:09 am

Bnielsen wrote:Very cool, Steve! Thanks for the update!

I *really* hope you guys made Lirazel longer!!!
Well - maybe we will???
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Post by Bnielsen » Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:53 pm

woooohooo!

I remember the chills that went down my spine the first time that chorus REALLY kicked in... and then the song ended....

anguish! die die die bleeeeeed! =p



erm.... :roll: sorry!
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Post by FredProgGH » Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:20 am

Japes wrote:
MayorOfLongview wrote:Recording flute today for "Lirazel - The Inconsolable Secret Revisited". Slowly but surely this album will make its way back into print. :D
Awesome! Is it real flute, or synthesized? And if it's real, who plays it?
This is one of those things that I'm really glad to fix... we always planned to bring in a real flute soloist for those parts but by the end of recording we were tired, up against a deadline and just didn't really care *lol*
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Post by FredProgGH » Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:23 am

Bnielsen wrote:Very cool, Steve! Thanks for the update!

I *really* hope you guys made Lirazel longer!!!
Actually that's the ONE song that I think is not scheduled for any kind of change whatsoever. Anyway, it doesn't end, you just have to wait until the end of the album for it to come back! That's called building tension :P :D
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Post by Bnielsen » Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:29 am

lol dangit! I get a 'maybe' from steve and a 'you might have to wait till the end' from fred...


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Post by MayorOfLongview » Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:08 pm

Bnielsen wrote:lol dangit! I get a 'maybe' from steve and a 'you might have to wait till the end' from fred...


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You may know this, but then again maybe you don't. The end of "Long and Long Ago" is the Lirazel theme. Same with the grand finale of Glimpse - its the same melody - different key and some different time signatures. So, extending the actual song might be over kill. Its one of the few songs on the album that basically 'does its thing' and is over. There's probably a better choice of words for that - but I'm tired :)
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Post by Bnielsen » Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:35 pm

oooooh. right. garsh, i'm dumb. :roll:
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of COURSE thats the theme... hahahah

Apparently I should try using the *smart* part of my brain before posting lol
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Post by Japes » Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:48 pm

So what exactly is changing in the overall "feel" of the album? It seems like it would be awfully hard to improve on perfection!
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Post by MayorOfLongview » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:20 pm

Japes wrote:So what exactly is changing in the overall "feel" of the album? It seems like it would be awfully hard to improve on perfection!
Fred will probably want to respond to this as well, but I can give you my 2 bits....

Some people felt (myself included) that some of the vocal sections were a bit stiff. These need to be loosened up a bit and that may even involve different lyrics. It will certainly involve new singers. We may add some new music too.
Of course we're making sonic improvements too - and this will definitely change the feel of the album. It will sound BIGGER. The song order will change to suit the concept a little better - guitars are being added, new drum sounds, new choir, etc. Lots of changes in the sonic realm....
Months of work ahead!
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Post by Japes » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:29 pm

MayorOfLongview wrote:
Japes wrote:So what exactly is changing in the overall "feel" of the album? It seems like it would be awfully hard to improve on perfection!
Fred will probably want to respond to this as well, but I can give you my 2 bits....

Some people felt (myself included) that some of the vocal sections were a bit stiff. These need to be loosened up a bit and that may even involve different lyrics. It will certainly involve new singers. We may add some new music too.
Of course we're making sonic improvements too - and this will definitely change the feel of the album. It will sound BIGGER. The song order will change to suit the concept a little better - guitars are being added, new drum sounds, new choir, etc. Lots of changes in the sonic realm....
Months of work ahead!
Steve
So, in essence, it will sound closer to Belmont?
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Post by NelStone » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:07 am

I'm happy no matter what you guys decide to do, but personally, "Mog Ruith" always felt too short to me. It keeps building up with that keyboard and bass, getting more awesome by the second, and then it just kind of... peters out. It always felt like it was building to something massive until those last, say, 25 seconds.

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Post by Sam Gamgee » Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:46 pm

I really don't like Mog Ruith. I usually skip it. Eew. Too strident and spidery and no singing.
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