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Post by MayorOfLongview » Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:58 am

http://progressiveears.com/Default.asp?bhcp=1

There's a nice thread going on, and no gnashing of teeth yet! 8)
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Post by Bnielsen » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:48 am

cancel that, 'paul' got steve's teeth all worked up.. =/

I hate asses like that.

I mean seriously- steve and fred will never be singing solo at the met in NYC or whatnot- but I have NO QUALMS whatsover with their voclas..
case in point-

Fred on lex rex's "Heroes and Dragons"
Steve on L@NF "A Cup Of Trembling"

Perfectly suited vocals for the songs, delivered strongly, with emotion.

I can think of 435,861,234 worse singers than them. =/
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Post by MayorOfLongview » Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:40 pm

This guy used to email me frequently to tell me how much we sucked and that we should let the girls sing. I suppose the new album still doesn't do it for him. It doesn't bother me if someone says that Walter isn't their cup of tea - but to insinuate that he cannot sing is preposterous. I don't care what he says about me, but when you insult one my band members I'm not just going to stand there and take it.

When you're in the same room with Walter Moore and he opens his mouth to sing, you should see how the room stands in awe of him. The girls just think he's amazing, and I tend to think of him as the best vocalist in the current prog scene.

Paul is a jerk for saying what he did and I hope everyone knows it. He seems mollified for the time being, but believe me - I'll be watching this guy. Just wait - he'll post a one star review on Amazon, and when he does I will retaliate (I have my ways - there's something to be said for being a Tennessee redneck! lol).

For now, he is actually banned from buying our music in the future - at least from us. I haven't got a clue why he feels the need to buy our discs when he hates us so much, and then why he feels the need to insult GH members when I assume he knows I'm an active forum member and will see it. JERK!


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Post by dragonflame713 » Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:32 pm

I have been watching that thread myself and thought it was going nicely until the trolls showed up. I still believe an overwhelming majority of people that are hearing "The Inconsolable Secret" are loving the album, and won't pay either of those people any mind.

I have to compliment you on how you are handling this guy Paul in there Steve, your first reply had me cracking up and I honestly don't think that he was expecting that kind of reply! Way to go! :lol:

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Post by theHermit » Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:31 pm

What an arse that guy is.

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Post by Sam Gamgee » Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:32 pm

Wow, they have no taste or tact. I was going to tell you to chill a little, Steve, but after reading their posts I don't blame you!! :lol: They have thoroughly confused the greater scope of reality and truth with personal preference. I wonder if these guys do this everyhere? Do they go lynch mob people who like a type of food they don't care for? Wow, I hate to imagine. :roll:
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Post by MayorOfLongview » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:37 pm

Just to give you an idea of what kind of guy the average GH hater like Paul is, I'll give you a taste of one of his other reviews. This one if from Amazon.com and deals with The Two Towers, and The Return of the King films.
And it begs the question, "What can man do against such reckless hate?" :lol: (That's from Theodon BTW!)

0 of 3 people found the following review helpful:

Paul Schumacher from Atlanta, Ga

Return of the King

A Question, March 15, 2005
I was puzzled by the ending.

Frodo, I guess, is a Christlike figure.

He proceeds to some ethereal realm in company of Gandalf, leaving his best buddy Sam with a kiss.

But what's the deal with him and Sam? Yes, Sam goes on to a hetero-marriage. But this can't compare with the tight-to-the-point-of-death intimacy with Frodo.

Is this a homoerotic motif?

Or what?




Two Towers



When I first saw this, I didn't much like it.

So I went back and viewed it again, just to be sure.

I was right.

It's overlong, overwritten, dark, and pointless.

The first Lord of the Rings (the Fellowship) I liked better. There the characters were fresh, the scenery bright and varied, the plot silly but negligible.

Here the scenes are almost all DARK. Perhaps this is thematic: the journey has reached its nadir. But the unrelieved gloom goes on too long. And the characters, though unusual (Gollum, the Ents), are tedious.

Even worse is the writing. When Sam oh-so-ponderously speculates on whether he and Frodo will ever be remembered or written about, I can hear Peter Jackson and even J.R.R. Tolkein laughing up their baggy medieval sleeves.

This kind of self-referential in-joke may appeal to fanatics; to me it was just pointless preening.

The main problem for me--and it just gets worse in the third movie, the Return--is the silliness of the plot, here dragged out to torpid length.

As for battles, seen one seen 'em all.

Guys (almost always guys) hacking each other to bits.

Fine for 14-year-old (or 7-year-old) males--I'm sure George W. Bush would like it. But for adults it's a snoozer.

A lavish copious epic bore.
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Post by Sam Gamgee » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:58 pm

Wow. I guess if you try really hard you can hate almost anything.
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Post by Bozo » Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:04 pm

I don´t think they hate it I just think they wan´t to be noticed. But why must other suffer for their macho feeling?
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Post by SuperTed » Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:14 pm

theHermit wrote:What an arse that guy is.
Agreed. A RingPiece of The First Order I'd say.

Empty vessels and all that I think. General sites that permit user posts (Amazon being a case in point) seem to be overburdened with one-star specialists. Everything's one-starred with 15 paragraphs of vitriol and then, shock-horror, a 4-star review sails into view! Mind you, it is for "Just The Way Yurt Are - A Tribute to Billy Joel by The Mongolian People's Army Nose Flute Division" (nice and obscure so no-one can ascend to their lofty intellectual plateau to disagree with them).

I believe the phrase "Kick 'em to the Kerb" is apposite in this instance?

He should've known better than to tackle our favourite bionic bass player! :lol:
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Post by alien2112 » Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:17 pm

Sam Gamgee wrote:Wow. I guess if you try really hard you can hate almost anything.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :banghead:

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Post by yeshead 777 » Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:41 pm

I posted a reponse to our Friend Paul on PE!-What a wanker!For the record-Walter has an amazing voice!That was proven to me watching the DVD!And personally I'd love to hear a whole CD with Susie's lead vocals on it-She can sing the phone book as far as I'm concerned and I'd buy it!But it's ya'll's band-and I am more than please with TIS-esp. Disc Two-its probably the most consistant Disc ya'll have produced!!!!P.S.Steve-Im with ya-I'm a Tennessee Redneck too!!!!

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Post by johnc » Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:13 pm

MayorOfLongview wrote:0 of 3 people found the following review helpful:

Paul Schumacher from Atlanta, Ga
Which is to say, 3 out of 3 people had no use for Pauly Schore's rantings. I recognize his name from occasional appearances on the AtlantaProg mailinglist, and can't remember learning a single useful item from him.
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Post by Sam Gamgee » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:24 pm

Let's be careful not to turn this into inverse progsnobbery though. We probably have better things to talk about here.
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Post by MayorOfLongview » Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:45 am

Sam Gamgee wrote:Let's be careful not to turn this into inverse progsnobbery though. We probably have better things to talk about here.
True - but keep an eye on those PE posts and see if he returns. Julie and I have once more sworn off reading them.

Seems that yesterday even a couple of friends who got free cds had to chime in with some negativity - though knowing that I was there to read it. That hurt. It could have been said through a private email, but for some reason the need existed to say something negative about IS during a very crucial time for us - and publicly.

The list of promo copies for the next album has grown shorter by two.
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